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what's up everybody how you doing today

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i can't hear you oh

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thanks greg i made that this morning too

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um as well as that like little acoustic

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thing i did

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and now we're getting down to the

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important stuff

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the brass tacks you take that

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entertainment

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look at it one last time

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one more time you gotta look

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put it over there because we have

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a very special guest

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and i'm very excited to pick his brain

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because he has a

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lot of cool stuff in his brain

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and i'm gonna get some interesting stuff

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out today

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guaranteed all right enough

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enough babbling christopher how you

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doing

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pretty good how are you good well do you

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like

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do you prefer um chris

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it doesn't matter okay well some people

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you know

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i'm christopher yeah

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no okay um

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i've got a few things going on but uh

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yeah

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would you go to lake or something

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recently yeah i

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took my kids and we went to the lake and

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yeah

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are you by superior lake superior no

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no lake huron lake huron and

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he is stories out of lake hero oh yeah

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yeah yeah see i go to the lake every day

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nothing dude maybe it doesn't get deep

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enough well

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no it's plenty deep i um i've not seen

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anything

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i i know that other people have seen

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stuff i'll make your own but i'm not

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seeing anything on like you're on but i

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yeah give me a good one well there's my

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dad's

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if but i don't even know if i told you

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that like

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i've told people that you know my dad

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have

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has had a sighting on like iran at his

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parents home

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i want to say like 1987 or 88

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maybe a little bit later i don't really

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somewhere in that time frame

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uh him and his brother-in-law were

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hanging out

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drinking some beers and just shooting

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in the gazebo and they noticed

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this light coming from the canadian side

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over to the american side and i just

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thought at the time it was a helicopter

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and didn't think too much of it

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but as he got to the american side and

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started going down the shoreline

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it was like hugging the shoreline

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and then it would go out and it would

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just reappear

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uh well a great distance late uh

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later away to they got

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right in front of them

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before they were in the gazebo my dad

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had proceeded to get out of the gazebo

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with his brother-in-law

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the brother-in-law was very frightened

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he didn't know what they were looking at

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my dad had maintained it was braised day

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so and this is like one or two o'clock

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and it it's lighting up the whole area

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where they lived uh lake huron there

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wasn't really a beach there there was a

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whatever this was

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was maybe no more than 75 to 100 feet

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away from that sea wall

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so you could pick up a rock and throw

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it slowly moved to the

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they didn't hear any sound of uh engine

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as i said it moved to the left slowly

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and it blinked out again

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and then it reappeared maybe the next

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town over is lexington

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and it appeared around over there and

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then blinked out

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and then it was gone and they even to uh

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2002 uh when i asked my dad more about

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he uh still didn't know what he had seen

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that was very interesting crazy

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yeah yeah we i think we talked about

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that before like um

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my dad has seen something too

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um he didn't go too much into it other

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just a bunch of lights flying around

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each other

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weird stuff and yeah my grandpa saw like

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from 80 to 84.

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the book or just what is that story

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that's my personal experience in my

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grandmother's house

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okay um what i will say is

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that the book humanoids 80 to 84

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whatever you want to call alien or

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and that is is similar

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slash close to what i saw okay

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oh gotcha no i'm just interested because

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a lot of your

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experiences and your dad's and

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um revolve around that i was born in

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so so you know i've always just looked

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for synchronicities i guess

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what do you know about

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interesting uh story that kind of

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with your fears personally just like a

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juicy story

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yeah story time

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um all right i will i will talk about

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this person without

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saying who they are and you won't know

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if it's a female or a male

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sure i have a friend

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on the west side of the state they are

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an experiencer

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most of their family is too the two

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daughters

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one of the first nights that they

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experienced weird things was where

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this person and their daughter

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were outside and they proceeded to see

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a triangle black triangle maybe a

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thousand feet

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above them the daughter said it was loud

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the mom couldn't hear anything

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i still don't know what to make of that

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because the daughter heard like

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the loudest noise ever and she was

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three feet away from her mom so

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yeah yeah i don't know what that's all

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um they would see hooded figures in

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their house

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that affected more of the daughters than

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the mom

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um the one weird thing that they still

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interesting that they can go to and they

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event happened where a triangle showed

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near their house not like over their

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house or anything like that

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but near close enough that

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it got like um

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amplified and it basically blew out all

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the electronics

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throughout the house and the power

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company came the next day and said your

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house should have caught fire

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and burnt to the ground with what

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so the they were repairing putting new

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fuse box in the house and everything

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and this person had some contractor come

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to their house to fix the

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furnace because they had been affected

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voltage from the power surge

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well this hvac guy was there maybe

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15 minutes before he ran out of the

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house and said i'm not working there

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because something's growling at me in

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like he he bolted he's like i'm not i'm

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even staying here and i didn't sign a

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waiver for that

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yeah they went down there and they

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didn't see anything they didn't hear

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um there's another point where

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uh they had some issues where

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um rats would fall from the ceiling

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just wearing yeah well in the movie

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poultry guys the original movie

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that is kind of mentioned with hopefully

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guys where

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rocks will come through whatever that

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thing is and

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listen this person very credible um

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yeah she's been through a lot

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and she's not on ufo twitter you mean

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aware of your

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twitter she doesn't want to be a part of

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your twitter

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uh she kind of just wants to do her own

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no that's cool you got to respect that

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interesting how i'm for one learning

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uh paranormal and

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this stuff kind of go hand in hand

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you know it's i feel like it's a lot

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more like skinwalker ranch than

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a lot of people are willing to admit

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oh yeah i mean and you i

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i mean your guess is good as mine is

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wise or poltergeist

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activity that shows up after a ufo

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signing or

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shortly before i mean that's yeah i

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don't know i didn't know what to do with

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i don't know either um

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lake michigan stories

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no that's cool yeah um

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let's talk about something else for a

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little bit

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what's been going on with uh all the

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press and stuff and what did you think

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can you hear me big tamper piece with

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glue i thought he did well yesterday

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am i breaking up really bad yeah it just

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sounds like something scratching on it

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or something

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yeah here let me

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so it's me and you again

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as it always seems to be doesn't it

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now the reason i asked about the family

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dynamic and everything is because

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my sighting for instance revolved around

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um so i was just curious i want to learn

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more about that and i know there's

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outlets where i can

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let's just start to find time um

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interesting as i'm looking into that

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fatima the operation sir

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oh you're sideways for a second

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yeah that sounds still there whatever

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let's just put through it

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all right sorry that's okay

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um yeah so we're talking about jake

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tapper my thing is

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i i don't know to be honest i don't

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think that he's interested in this topic

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or this conversation so but right that's

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just the vibe of picking them up yeah

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so yeah well the way he went to that

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next dean was like

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um it turns out people do get better

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with age

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i was like come on dude this is the

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biggest story of all times

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like you're not even shook one percent

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you know um

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[Music]

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yeah that wire is just distracting the

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yeah whatever it is i can barely hear

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you

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all right

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maybe we'll just leave it there for now

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if you can

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try to come back or keep i i'll come

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back another day

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that's okay man

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because i could barely like it's really

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bad yeah i'm sorry

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yeah no it is that's okay brother you

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know you got an open door here so we'll

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oh that sucked sorry guys um

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he had some issues there so i'll

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i guess i'll just does anyone have any

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questions or anything or

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anything they want to talk about i

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didn't plan on being here with you

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uh right now but

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i can tell you i was looking into the

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like the fatima

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that happened in uh portugal our lady

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peace

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was like the main

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like catholic kind of church there at

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the time

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i was looking into it because it was in

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1917 and in 1917

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my entire family on my dad's side

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you know was in portugal um

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my grandma was born in 1910

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and she so she was like seven years old

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and they wound up coming over here um

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in about 1919 so two years later

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i'm trying to find if there's any sort

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of connection with my family in that

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um i can't find anything concrete other

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than

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you know a last name that's similar

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you know everybody seems like they lived

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at least a couple hours away although

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my great-grandpa wrote for

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probably the second most popular

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newspaper i think it's commercial

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and i would have to imagine if it was

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that big of a deal maybe you reported on

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it i don't know

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he also sold wine out of porto

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and porto's kind of closer but yeah so i

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can't really find anything any stories

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as far as

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family and stuff it's just i can only

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find things

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around those three kids

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um so that's interesting

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um i forgot what he's called but she was

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jewish there

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and it was it was pretty interesting

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story so my

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great grandpa um had a my grandma

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with a jewish lady and was not supposed

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to do that they were not married

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um and this the story is he wound up

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coming over here

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because he had to go to uh seminary

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and he didn't want to do that so he came

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here

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but i don't know the guy uh is

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a mystery to me he's in a movie in a ci

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cia movie about world war ii he's in the

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like jewelry shop he plays uh jeweler

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fixing a spy watch

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it's the weirdest thing and there's

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rumors of him being a spy

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in the u.n and all that so i don't

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know

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oh cool look at this guy oh thanks for

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joining us

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feel like i'm in an indie club with the

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yeah well that's that's like the stuff

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uh i do you know when i had a life

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and people didn't have coronaviruses i

376
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would go to indie clubs

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but i would drink high life not whiskey

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and lemonade

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i'll tell i don't really have

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uh too much to talk about um i just

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wanted to say about like the jack

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jake tapper piece and everything

383
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like how are these guys like jake tapper

384
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gonna realize how serious this

385
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um you know the next piece is about phil

386
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mickelson and the guy transitioned like

387
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so corny and you could just tell his

388
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smug face

389
00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:18,070
you know and lou's working his ass off

390
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like doing this stuff the

391
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most i could do is show him a little

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respect and give him some time

393
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how is he supposed to get anything done

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when

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he can't go further on anything

396
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he has a lot to say if you listen to max

397
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and his podcast

398
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he was freaking drawing flying saucer

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pictures

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and explaining how the whole damn thing

401
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worked

402
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he's on cnn and he gets like two seconds

403
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and then they go well it turns out

404
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people do

405
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get better with age i'm jake tapper like

406
00:21:02,789 --> 00:20:58,400
what the hell

407
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you know

408
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give the guy more time i mean

409
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i know you may still feel stigma or you

410
00:21:12,789 --> 00:21:10,880
may not want to agree with someone like

411
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tucker carlson

412
00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:16,640
but get over it

413
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the media doesn't know how to work with

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things that are bipartisan and

415
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:29,750
because conflict raises ratings

416
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disagreeing with the other party

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trashing people

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that's what gets ratings not a

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bipartisan

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you know what things that are here

421
00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:58,000
that um people that look like us just

422
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they got material it was made

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and it predates when we were able to

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manufacture material that way

425
00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:22,149
but let's go to the phil mickelson story

426
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that guy's 50 years old and he won one

427
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:35,510
it's just too bad um

428
00:22:40,149 --> 00:22:38,400
but we're just going so you know

429
00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:40,159
hopefully it picks up i can definitely

430
00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:41,919
tell that like fox is definitely

431
00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:45,039
giving more time and more of an open

432
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mind to him

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00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:49,600
and seem to take it more seriously and i

434
00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:51,840
guarantee you that's the reason cnn

435
00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:53,200
isn't doing it more

436
00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:03,830
absolutely pathetic you can't run a long

437
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:07,520
longer story that was on 60 minutes

438
00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:11,039
spend two minutes with lou because

439
00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,360
well then you're agreeing with fox news

440
00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:16,080
your enemy

441
00:23:22,149 --> 00:23:20,080
who cares i don't agree with fox news

442
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:22,159
stuff i don't agree with cnn stuff

443
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:31,669
you know aren't you sick and tired of

444
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:32,960
this

445
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:37,760
politics divisive enemies

446
00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:45,830
get over it we're all humans we're all

447
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flawed

448
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we're all trying to do the best we can

449
00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:50,320
and we have

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potentially the biggest event in

451
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,510
or what could be

452
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:04,390
right there so close you feel like you

453
00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:12,390
it's weird too because that's you know

454
00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:14,159
almost like a liberal

455
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:17,200
channel right and it's the christians

456
00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:20,640
who are calling these things demons

457
00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:22,400
i think there's a lot i don't know what

458
00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:24,400
that means but i think there's a lot

459
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:25,760
more going on

460
00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:27,520
um well lou said that there's a lot more

461
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:28,880
going on

462
00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:32,400
than we know

463
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:37,600
but um you know we can demand for more

464
00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:40,240
we can say that pieces like jake tappers

465
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that because it's not good enough

466
00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:49,669
and i'll tell you right now luke

467
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:51,600
desperately wants somebody to

468
00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:57,029
and take this weight off his back he's

469
00:25:08,549 --> 00:24:58,559
has a family

470
00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:14,310
anybody that could help him

471
00:25:25,679 --> 00:25:30,710
do it now um

472
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,990
another thing

473
00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:36,710
like people or debunkers that are still

474
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:37,679
talking about

475
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:41,120
birds and balloons

476
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:51,190
you know i'm not saying we can't say it

477
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:52,320
may be foreign

478
00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:54,960
that's fine or whatever maybe ours you

479
00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:56,000
say what you want

480
00:26:05,590 --> 00:25:59,760
but it's not a bird or balloon so stop

481
00:26:09,510 --> 00:26:08,870
i mean some you can't stereotype

482
00:26:12,149 --> 00:26:09,520
everyone

483
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:12,159
some come with good ground and

484
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:14,080
intentions

485
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:17,279
but some are literally just there

486
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:20,720
to cause conflict and disagree

487
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:25,840
because they get a mouthpiece like trump

488
00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:28,559
trump i guess said something to dan

489
00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:30,240
cordovino or whatever

490
00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:33,120
guy's name is about me personally i

491
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:33,840
don't believe

492
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:35,039
but you know i don't want to hurt

493
00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:37,679
feelings or whatever like who

494
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:44,470
you're the most desi divisive

495
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:47,919
um anti-bring people together president

496
00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:49,919
i've ever had and i'm not

497
00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:52,000
into politics i actually like some of

498
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:54,159
the things that he did

499
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:03,029
and he's saying that stuff

500
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:06,640
to dan bonnarino

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00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:07,919
so he can get his butt in the

502
00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:10,159
conversation

503
00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:11,840
you know he doesn't have twitter social

504
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:13,679
media anymore

505
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:16,000
so when he says that stuff he's doing

506
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:18,320
that so we do post it on twitter

507
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:24,789
you know but it's up to us to know that

508
00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:26,240
not give in

509
00:27:32,830 --> 00:27:28,880
we can't give in to the people that just

510
00:27:39,029 --> 00:27:35,830
conflict

511
00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:39,039
you know we don't have time for that

512
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:44,310
we don't have time for that we need to

513
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:46,159
elevate the conversation if we want to

514
00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:48,960
figure out what this truly is

515
00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:54,389
and if we're sitting there looking at

516
00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:56,399
birds and balloons

517
00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:05,510
so and i'm not sitting here saying

518
00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:06,960
it's definitely alien or

519
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:08,559
interdimensional or whatever i don't

520
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:09,760
freaking know

521
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:19,269
or like come on

522
00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:21,600
and mick wes brags about how he actually

523
00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:23,360
got five minutes on cnn

524
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:27,039
you know that to me is an example of how

525
00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:30,880
um for you it's

526
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,310
you are the ultimate one upper

527
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:43,430
if people don't get your stuff you peck

528
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:44,080
away

529
00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:50,789
and i've given the guy opportunity to

530
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:52,640
talk to me to

531
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:54,960
explain what he was doing in his videos

532
00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:56,720
i want to bring him on and

533
00:29:03,590 --> 00:28:58,559
serve it like an educational piece where

534
00:29:13,029 --> 00:29:07,029
doesn't want to do it so how helpful

535
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:13,039
is he i don't know

536
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:22,389
you know if we lean on each other

537
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:26,070
we stay positive and help each other and

538
00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:34,310
and support people that are pushing

539
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:36,399
transparency god damn it at this point

540
00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:38,559
if you don't believe lou

541
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:42,640
you don't know how to read a person

542
00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:49,029
but the guy's killing himself doing this

543
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:53,990
so let's help him out until we can get

544
00:30:03,830 --> 00:29:54,960
to

545
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:03,840
our energy on that versus

546
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:07,200
conflict or

547
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:14,149
you know

548
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:17,269
but i'm sorry chris couldn't be here for

549
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:18,480
longer he had some

550
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:23,120
uh internet issues

551
00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:26,320
so um but he'll be back

552
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:29,919
i really like talking to him uh he's be

553
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:33,440
he's become a friend um so

554
00:30:37,110 --> 00:30:35,760
you will see him again i can tell you

555
00:30:39,669 --> 00:30:37,120
that

556
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:39,679
and we have graham rendell coming in

557
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:40,960
about a half hour

558
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:45,600
so um i am going to

559
00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:48,720
take that opportunity to do some day job

560
00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:49,440
work

561
00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:52,799
for a half hour and then i'll come back

562
00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:56,240
on and we'll talk with graham

563
00:30:59,909 --> 00:30:57,679
and we'll pick his brain on everything

564
00:31:01,750 --> 00:30:59,919
that's going on and what he thinks

565
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:01,760
he's a very intelligent person he comes

566
00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:04,640
with a great perspective

567
00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:07,519
and he's from across the pond so that

568
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:08,880
should be great

569
00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:12,000
um if i don't

570
00:31:15,909 --> 00:31:15,279
yeah if i don't see you again i'll see

571
00:31:27,860 --> 00:31:15,919
you later